05 Oct IT’S MA’AM UGS Interviews Trans Meme Sensation
Fans of UGS know we’re about meme life so it should come as no surprise that we approached the woman behind the viral meme sensation “It’s Ma’am!” aka saraTonin.
We were curious to find out her opinions on what happened back in 2018 when she was caught on camera losing her cool at a GameStop store in the US, after being misgendered by the employee who had given her the wrong pronoun of “Sir” instead of “Ma’am”.
What then ensued was an angry rant aimed towards the employee who is seen trying to calm the situation.
However after being asked to calm down the employee mistakenly called her sir again which only stoked the flames of her anger.
Tiffany admits to us that she’s using the newly found fame to launch her rap career and shine light on trans empowerment issues.
1. Tell us about yourself?
I am a 40-year-old trans empowerment activist, a full time single mother, and a professional musician. Hate and bigotry have given me a national platform that use for the betterment of the trans community.
2. You became a viral sensation when the video was uploaded to the internet and people started giving you the meme treatment. How did you deal with the sudden fame?
I wrote a song and filmed a video and used the negativity to fuel my music career.
3. Are you using your fame in a positive way?
Absolutely! As I said before, I’m one of the more recognizable trans activists these days, and my bars are all relevant in today’s political climate. My people are being politicized on both the left and the right as if we were a piece of legislation, so I use my voice so it can be heard, not ignored.
4. How do you feel about the video that has now made you famous? Would you have approached it in a different way given hindsight.
Absolutely not! I would do it the same a million times over again. Cis folk have too much of a habit of dismissing trans issues, such as retail sensitivity training, as non-consequential or in some cases, they just don’t care because trans issues are not their issues. People of the trans experience need to speak out against things like malicious misgendering. The cis folk expect us to roll over and take it, and until me, most did.
5. Would you agree/disagree that that most people accept others for the way that they are, but the issue lies in there being so many genders nowadays that people either are unsure what pronoun to give.
I completely disagree, and concepts like that are very problematic to the trans community. Gender is a spectrum, not a binary, and we are literally not hurting anyone with the free expression of ourselves. all we are asking is to respect our identities and individuality and there are no more genders these days than there always have been.
6. We have been using Sir and Madam for centuries do you agree or disagree that people just need to get used to all the changes and even rewire our brains to some extent on issues that have started to make a big impact only over the past few years?
I totally agree. People need to realize that no one is the same as the next person, even identical twins are not the same, so expecting to force somebody to be the same as you is asinine at best.
We need to move away from these ancient and archaic ways that have been proven to be problematic and violent to some extent and make room for progress. I love that I live in a time where my 11-year-old kid can come out to me as non-binary! When I was 11, transgender wasn’t even a concept, or not a very popular one anyway.
7. Have you spoken to the shop assistant that took the brunt of your anger since the incident?
No, and don’t care to. The dude did what he set out to do, and GameStop publicly backed him. It’s my hope that he develops massive hemorrhoids and carries that with him the rest of his life. His little “joke” cost me everything. my life is completely different now because of him. I hope he has debilitating irritable bowel syndrome.
8. Are you still misgendered now after the viral video?
Go to my Facebook page and have a gander at any public post I’ve made in the past 6 months at least several hundred trolls follow my every move and try to troll my public posts. Although, I have an army of SJWs ready to go to war for me and the trolls get embarrassed. They have absolutely no backbone and fold like origami when presented with facts and sources cited.
9. You’re a rapper are you using your fame to propel your music career?
Absolutely! My album “stir the pot” drops October 17th and at this point, it’s pretty highly anticipated!
10. How long have you been rapping?
I have been an emcee going on 28 years. I was a somewhat known contributor to independent hip-hop before my transition.
11. Who do you look up to in the rap game?
I’ve got mad respect for the Demigodz crew. Apathy is a brilliant dude and the way he monetized his hustle is nothing short of amazing! of course the originators like juice crew and large pro,but most of all, it’s the ladies. MC Lyte is the GOAT! well, her and Queen Bahamadia!! Real talk,there are just too many to mention, but unfortunately, due to the extreme amounts of misogyny and homophobia in classic hip hop, I don’t listen to it much anymore.
12. Any dream collaborations?
Any of the above would be dope, but once again, probably not in the stars because who’s going to feature a trans girl MC, right? Times are changing but I don’t hold these artists in the same esteem I held them when I was pretending to be a guy. There a movement of queer artists and hopefully my notoriety will help some of them surface as well!
13. Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
In the same place, just living more comfortably, but chances are I get assassinated shortly after my record drops. The Christian right has assured me of as much lol.
14. What’s next for you?
Keep pushing for trans empowerment and keep dropping trans positive hip- hop.
15. Any closing thoughts?
Times are changing, unfortunately though, some folks are not. I would like to think we live in a time where my very existence isn’t a controversy, but we don’t, so until the far left finally gets its shit together and we have glorious revolution, I am going to remain a force to be reckoned with when it comes to my trans and queer community and my comrades in arms!
Words by: Ian Hinksman .